Ok, so now that I have thoroughly experienced unemployment, I'm ready to be done with it. Seriously. I've been meaning to update you on all of the interesting things that are out there in the world of employment, but somehow havent managed to find the time to do so. Which is interesting because I really dont do anything all day. But, I have people breathing down my neck, and hey, if Rossanna can manage to blog from freakin' Eastern Europe, then the least I can do is get off my duff (hehe... duff beer for me, duff beer for you, I'll have a duff.. you have one too) and write something down. See, now thats the kind of sidetracking that I have been experiencing.
Anyhow, the first thing that REALLY caught me by surprise was the prevalence of pyramid schemes masquerading as actual employment. There are pyramid schemes in EVERY shape and color, but I must say, the vast majority of them are posing as marketing firms.
I know this because I experienced one of them. Granted, I went into it more than a little bit skeptical (because lets face it, if there are 72 posts on Monster for the exact same job at the exact same company, something must be wrong) but I decided I NEEDED to make sure it wasnt something actually worthwhile and my instincts were exactly wrong.
*Sidebar: Thats what instincts are for. Use them. There's usually something to that little nagging feeling.
So, I decided to respond to BOTH of the requests for interviews I got, one from The Advertising Group, one from JStarr Advertising. (Another hint I should have run the other way: Both contacted me for an interview within 24 hours of submitting my resume. AND, one of them called me in for an interview THAT SAME DAY!) So, I went in for the preliminary interview with JStarr (they were located in Orange, exactly 1 block from where my sister works, so I figured I could sneak in a happy hour afterwards). On my application I mentioned I was looking for creativity in whatever position I would accept... using it on things like desiging marketing promotions, etc. I distinctly remember THINKING during the interview "Telemarketing is DEATH TO ME". Maybe I should have said that out loud so that they would have known not to bother with me any more. Instead, I kept quiet and they scheduled me for the second interview, where you shadow someone in the current job.
What is the current job you ask? I'll tell you!
These people are *allegedly* in direct marketing. They have clients like SBC, Verizon, Victorias Secret, etc. The marketing people at these companies design promotions, and JStarr is responsible for carrying them out. They make presentations in house with potential clients. I'm still trying to give them the benefit of the doubt at this point in time, so I'm thinking they schedule sales presentations with various companies, set up the powerpoint and then celebrate after closing big deals. WRONG. They go door to door in office complexes, UNSOLICITED, doing what basically boils down to door to door sales. THat day, they were trying to get people to open an account with Quill Office products (the wholesale subsidiary of Staples), so I was walking around while this girl sold office products door to door. Thus, it's equally as unwelcome as telemarketing, but it has that added bonus of being done IN PERSON!
Now, as unpleasant as this sounds, add to it the fact that I was walking around in a SUIT and my nice shoes, on a day that was hot as sin. Anyone who knows me knows that I am fundamentally against suits (even more so after this day) and so it is just an INSULT that they had me out there doing such awful things in one...
After talking with the gentleman responsible for subjecting me to this torture over lunch, he told me about scheduling the third interview, and I politely declined. He asked why, and I refreshed his memory about that whole creativity business I put on my application. I mentioned that I wanted to be the one DESIGNING the promotions, and he said "But they have OTHER people to do that." My response: "That OTHER person is who I want to be!!!I won't be going door to door for ANYTHING!!!" (Him: But everyone has to start at the bottom)(Me: Ignoring that remark, I tell him that I want to design promotions. And HEY- I thought you said this was JStarr ADVERTISING. There's no advertising going on)(Him: Advertising, marketing... all fancy ways of dressing up that it's SALES.)(Me:Well, I want to be in ACTUAL marketing. Not sales DISGUISED as marketing)
And he made me buy my own lunch!!!!
I feel at this point I need to mention the cycle of activities that makes this place an actual pyramid scheme, because thats what it truly is, although less sinister than some.
1. You get hired and go door to door selling stuff
2. Once you have proven your ability to do #1 well, then you become a management trainee
3. Once you have mastered being a management trainee, you start subbing in for the main boss. You also have to hire more people to do #1 and promote people to level #2 since you're moving up.
4. You've done it! You now get to open your own office and hire people to do exactly the same thing over and over again. You also train them so that THEY can be where you are, with THEIR own office and the ability to hire people to do the exact same nothing that you do, but in a suit.
*Note: The only ways to ACTUALLY make any money are to do lots of business at #1 (selling stuff) and at #4 (bringing other people in to sell stuff on your behalf)
I cancelled my interview with the other company, who was basically the LA version of this same organization.
Now, on the one hand, I am glad for this experience because it opened my eyes and it allowed me to figure out questions to ask so I'd know if it was another company like this one, but it was also quite disappointing to find out how many variations of this same scheme are going on in multiple locations.
Known variations of the Pyramid Scheme:
Variation #1:
Rossanna can tell you about this one better than I can, because she experienced it. Like me, she went in for a preliminary interview, which led to an offer for an all day interview the next day, "Shadowing" someone currently in that job. She went door to door selling home security systems. In Simi Valley. One of the safest neighborhoods in the nation. Then they offered her a position as a person who would work their way up to be in management. (Management of WHAT you ask? Dunno. They told me the same thing) When she said she needed to think about it (A polite way of trying to make an exit and then RUN, if you ask me) they said they needed Decision makers! (Read: Take the job NOW.) She said no, and they tried to convince her (on some level) that it was not a good decision. Personally, I think it was because if her decisionmaking was already clashing with the company vision, then there would probably be lots more clashes later on. (For example: No! I have made a decision NOT to go door to door sellling these security systems. YOU go door to door! That one probably wouldnt go over well)
Variation #2: Sports Marketing
I am still amazed at how far someone can go in interpreting words to mean something COMPLETELY DIFFERENT than what the words actually say (But then again, the KKK calls themselves christian, dont they.. and yet nowhere in standard christianity does it say to hate minorities, especially African Americans.... and besides, when the bible was actually written, there WERE no african americans, thankyouverymuch!)
In any case, the distillation process that takes place when one wants to stretch the truth is AMAZING. My cousin submitted an application on my behalf to a company who said they do sports marketing. They called me for an interview, and knowing what I know now, I decided to ask some questions. As soon as they said they would train for the position, I was concerned, becuase in marketing, you either know it or you dont!
Me: WHAT are you marketing
them: Athletic enhancement substances/products
Me:To Whom are you marketing?
Them: Athletic Teams
Me: Professional ones?
Them: Not so much. More like little league, middle and high school athletic teams. Club teams too!!!
Me (skeptical at this point): Is there any direct marketing involved?
Them(talking really fast and attempting to avoid the question): Yes, well, um err, uhh. Wellitwouldbeanexcellentopportunityandwe'dbehappytotrainyouforthepositionandyoucouldadvancequicklyandblahblahblahblahblah
Me:What kind? Would it involve anything door to door? Wait, never mind. I'm not interested, thank you.
What's even more funny is that a week ago, this same man called me again at MY number instead of my mom's# (which is how he got a hold of me last time) and offered me the same job.